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Minivan could be the first EV into production

Tuesday, November 11th, 2008
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A while back we reported that the Dodge EV had a good chance of being the vehicle that Chrysler puts into production in 2010.  Eventually all three will be in production, but only one of them will get there in 2010, the others will be a bit further off.  We’re now seeing reports that the minivan could be the first EV into production.  And the more we think about it the more it makes perfect sense.

“We’ve certainly got the possibility of electrifying our vehicles now,” said Reid Bigland, president of Chrysler Canada Inc. “It’s not pie-in-the-sky.”

The only competition for the minivan ev would be the Chevy Volt, a four seater car.  If the Chrysler EV can get the same 40 miles without using any gas, and if it will get decent mileage while using gas (Chevy claims that the Volt will get 50 on gas), the minivan could steal a few customers of the Volt and a few that were waiting for a bigger vehicle. 

There are plenty of people that would like to get something like the Volt but they either have too big a family or they need to haul too much stuff around on a regular basis for the Volt to be practical for them.  The Chrysler EV is the perfect solution for them.  They get 40 miles of gas free driving and pretty good (great for a minivan) mileage after that. 

The other reason for the Chrysler EV to be the first is the simplicity of it.  The Chrysler Town and Country already has a lot of storage in the middle of the vehicle for the stow and go seating.  If the owner opts for swivel and go instead of the stow and go that storage space isn’t used for the seats (since the swivel and go can’t fold into the floor), it’s just storage.  The batteries needed to make the Chrysler EV will go there, so the owner will get the swivel and go seats but they lose the storage capacity.  A small price to pay for the ability to use no gas.

“We didn’t have to do much tear-up,” Quigley says of the conversion process: engineers simply filled the second-row seat tubs with batteries intead of foldaway seats, and put Swivel ‘N Go seats in the van instead.

The location of the storage is optimal for the batteries.  It’s low to the ground and in the middle of the vehicle.  Nothing needs to be done to tune the suspension for handling with the extra 400ish pounds of weight.  Since it’s under the body of the vehicle is should also be easier to keep the batteries cool.

Once you put the batteries in all you have to do is hook up an electric motor to them, provide a small 4 cylinder engine to power it when the batteries are low and you have yourself and EV.  Of course it’s not that simple, some of the components in the EV need to be redesigned, extensive testing needs to be done to make sure that the EV is safe and reliable.  But it’s a lot easier and quicker to do the minivan than it would be to do the Wrangler or the Dodge EV.

Chrysler ENVI vehicles have a lot in common with the Volt

Wednesday, October 15th, 2008

When Chrysler reveiled their three ENVI vehicles a few weeks ago we found that one of them was an all electric sports car for Dodge.  Likely a replacement for the Viper (Chrysler is looking to sell the Viper name for some cash, the new CAFE standards preclude Chrysler from making the Viper in a few years).  The Dodge EV with it’s batteries would have a range of over 150 miles, but that’s not very practical for every day buyers.  Then again, a Viper isn’t that practical either.

The other two EVs are extended range electric vehicles (that’s GMs term for it).  They use batteries for the first 40 miles to power an electric motor that drives the wheels and then a gas engine switches on to extend the range.  The Chevy Volt does the exact same with it’s engine and motor.  The question has been, does the gas engine bypass the batteries like the Volt does, or does it run a generator that recharges the batteries so that the batteries will always power the electric motor.

“The gas engine recharges the battery a little bit,” said Cole Quinnell, a Chrysler spokesman. “But that’s just excess and overflow, not the central intent. It’s more efficient for the gas motor to drive the wheels, not recharge the batteries. The cost to recharge the battery by running the generator is eight times the cost of taking it home and plugging it in.”

Along with the actual dollar cost of using gas to recharge the batteries the longevity of the battery pack is a consideration for this decision.  Rechargeable batteries have a lifespan of only so many charges.  Having the gas engine constantly recharge the battery pack would shorten the life of the batteries significantly.